Tuesday, January 24, 2012

The Problem With the CSM TL;DR Version

After reading the absurd, opportunistic, new player unfriendly stuff in the latest CSM minutes I started writing a massive wall of text picking apart the CSM and trying to explain it. In the end I just gave up the wall of text and am just going to publish the summary.


TL;DR:
Treating the CSM as a focus group for EVE players is as valid as treating the US Senate as a focus group for Americans.

8 comments:

  1. And people are clearly going to care what you think when it's so awesomely backed with facts.

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  2. Awww Moonshine, he made a point AND a funny. Leave it at that would you?

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  3. *ROTFLMAO* Ain't that the truth - on both counts!

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  4. Generally this is a good blog, but you are mad. 3-4 of the CSM seats are held by the most new player friendly alliances. I was in nullsec on day 2. I've been making money because the other players in my alliance helped me figure out how to make money by salvaging and ratting.

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  5. Powers is correct. Goonfleet is literally the best new player corp in Eve if you can get in. Within 30 days, they have you able to do PI and be useful in fleets. On top of that, they regularly have veterans shower new players in isk and/or ships just to keep them encouraged. Goonfleet has been 100% about new players since day one and continues to be. The fact is that no NPC NPE will ever live up to getting players into a player-run corp. That's the only way to do it. Again, NPE really rests on the current players to draw them in.

    Also, simply due to the organizing ability of the nullsec groups, CSM will most likely be majority held and chaired by a nullsec presence for as long as they deem it in their interest.

    Please post your many words, I think readers are interested in the thought process. Add to the discussion brah.

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  6. @Moonshine.... what part of this statement do you disagree with. Do you think that the American Senate is a valid cross-section of America, or that the CSM is a valid cross-section of EVE players?

    @Powers... Are you thinking I am mad because of the above statement, or because of my concerns for new players. Sure goons and TEST have great programs for new players, but most of EVE players don't come from Reddit/SA. Your experience is hardly representative.

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  7. lol Only one thing wrong with your allegory: historically the Senate wasn't meant to be a cross-section -- it was actually meant as an "upper-tier counterbalance" to the House, which WAS supposed to be the "cross-section" of the "great unwashed mass" of Murricans. ;-)

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  8. @Hong... Exactly... The CSM was never meant to be a cross-section. But unfortunately it is being used as such. It is a highly politicized, partisan, group of powerful players being asked to make decisions about gameplay they know nothing about, just like the US Senate.

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